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[quote:1cfzm6sv][i:1cfzm6sv]Originally posted by Rick Wilson[/i:1cfzm6sv]

Life is far too short to waste on the wrong people.

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Quit complaining, you wanna try being female with short reach, mate you don’t know how lucky you are.<img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/" alt="” title=”Tongue” />

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Omigosh no small topics here…

I have no idea about the incident/accident that started the train of thought but

Integrity is everything.
(It can be hard work, so many shades of grey).

Its not too much, or wrong to expect others to understand honour but its probably unrealistic given human nature.
Some people are reckless. Some people just don’t think. Some people lack the empathy to understand the effect of their words on others. Kind of forgiveable.

But some people act without honour because they are actually bad, or mad, or cowardly or lazy, supremely self-interested or simply stupid.

Avoidance completely appropriate.

But reaction in proportion. (For overreaction think Don Quixote or duelling or cultural honour killings!)

That no-apology apology is a work of art isn’t it!? Unless an apology is heartfelt its just another bargaining statement.

Some people don’t deserve to be dignified by the attention they get.

We are responsible only for our own integrity. So we learn a little more about human nature, sigh, swear and move on. .

I find hitting things helps a lot.

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This is good…

And I love it when I get answers that make me think and teach me something and give me more questions…! (Marcus does this too)

Had to find out what the hell shuhari was…

Ok, thankyou, I understand your “methodology of violence” better now.

A couple of thoughts – Rory Miller talks forcefully about the reality of violence being not as you imagine it will be. The sad fact is that for most women violence is likely to be of the domestic variety – CQC of a different kind indeed. And probably not the form most guys envisage violence in their lives to take either. Not noble, no integrity, the violence within ourselves. The emotional/psychological methodology must not be underestimated, both for women and men.

Actually there is a recurring theme here which involves the combination of opposing principles/forces.

Also – you seek to raise the methodology of violence to the level of an art form. This is no small thing. Bloody amazing. “Art form” suggests skill above the ordinary, excellence, purity – but also implies creativity, expression, beauty even – not concepts typically associated with MA or violence and quite unscientific! Could be that recurring theme again. The art form is the ri part of the journey?

“We embark on the journey of martial arts because we expect it to continue forever”

We don’t embark on it for this reason. Our reasons for starting out are more mundare. Don’t know why anyone else started but I started to keep my son company and to get some exercise to fight depression. Never looked beyond the next class.
But karate keeps throwing up challenges, omigod, and one of the ones that still really challenges me, that took a lot of getting my head around, is the idea that this is not something that will end. You mean I could be doing this for the rest of my life!!!?

Of course there have been many challenges since, not the least of which is the idea that what I have been doing for the last ten or more years is wrong (!!)…well it has at the least been a starting point…

I’ve been, just a little bit wickedly, testing out some my karate colleagues with subversive uechi concepts. It’s been really interesting to see how closed some minds are. Many of the truly superb karatekas simply will not contemplate alternative universes- in some ways they are trapped by their own natural abilities- and stuck on shu.

Going to think about the frame of the film idea, suspect it is fundamentally crucial, flow the snapshots together.

Going to be listening real hard.

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And this is why I so like this forum…

Rick it will take me a while to absorb everything you have written here, but I have a few instant questions which may seem really simplistic but I don’t have the specific UEPA Uechi background of training and discussion so I hope you won’t mind.

What is “the application of violent methodology” ? – do you mean ways of dealing with violence, responses to violence, or our own use of violence?

Are you talking about learning to deal with the violence of others or confronting the violence/anger that may be within ourselves? Our fear of violence or our fear to use violence?

Can you further explain the “restrictive box” of form? My old style strictly proscribes the way every single movement in a kata should be performed, and every single basic technique, and non-conformism is not permitted. Is this what you mean?

I believe I understand movement and breath but what do you mean by “structure”?

How do we work to best achieve a “connection with body knowledge”?

Comments – Effort – most people understand the physical of karate but seem to leave their brains at the dojo door and let someone else do the thinking for them, intellectual effort not required! Like good little soldiers.

And isn’t it all about challenge? We grow as a result of the challenges we respond to.

I haven’t found anything that offers me the wonderful, terrible, constantly evolving range of challenges this damm karate does.

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A voice in suppport of mainstream karate, excellent.

These clubs do great good – thousands of people get to enjoy the physical, mental and psychological benefits of karate who would otherwise never have dreamed of taking it up, like me.

Agreed mainstream karate does not tackle the subtleties (and the unsubleties) of violence but it forms a useful bridge for people whose real life experience of violence is minimal.

And karate transcends itself – it is saving lives, just not in the way it was originally designed to.

Its been pointed out that it’s important to know why you are training and what you want to achieve. Most of the people I train with are just awesome, but so caught up in the culture that the fundamental point is missed. The training is indeed The Way. They’re happy but I was frustrated and didn’t know why. Then someone nudged me out of the bubble…

Really interesting and totally encouraging that you manage to coordinate the two styles in your life. Maybe I can find a way to make it work too.

Exploring turns out to be cool fun, and you get to hit people too – how much better can it get:)

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Thanks, Chris.
The club is Go Kan Ryu, founded by Australian (you have no idea how hard that is for a Kiwi to admit…) Robert Sullivan. His training originally was Go Ju Kai but todays GKR is a hybrid of GoJu and Shotokan. We do katas from both schools. Its a big marketing organisation, supposedly the fastest growing club in the world, very family oriented and non-contact at the early levels – and it is totally McDojo.

Actually GKR does pretty much everything that you guys so eloquently rubbish.

How lucky am I – I get to be heretical in both camps! <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/" alt="” title=”Smile” />

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Thanks for the welcome – I’ll do my best to live up to the name! Very definitely female but I do train hard and have way too much fun Laird, so maybe I’ll fit in ok.<img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/" alt="” title=”Smile” />

I found the forum a while ago while chasing ideas for teaching kumite and have just looked in from time to time – didn’t make the connection with Marcus until the posts last week, that news was just awesome by the way.

Rick I’m really not working on IUPA Uechi yet, still training hard in my old style, but Marcus has been pretty direct in telling me how wrong!!! it is, so I’m learning what I can about Uechi and liking it a lot so far. Just as well I’m pretty open minded and can take a hit now and then…give it back too!

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Hi.

I avoid forums – full of boys club crap, but found this one accidentally and among the usual there was some stuff that was actually halfway intelligent.

Just one example – the five point list in your “If not the kumites, what do we Teach” post – is gold.
Simple, encapsulating so very much, and I can use it. I have not seen a truly functional mission statement for any other martial arts organisation. Respect.

The very least I can do in return is to front up from time to time to acknowledge a source of insight and to stir a little, but I’ll mainly lie low.

You are already reaching people you don’t even know about.

How can you use the net to make your student base larger?

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